Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 01:36:00PM +0200, ?á?ek Kry?tof wrote:
> I agree, but only partially.
>
> look - STABLE is too outdated for desktop, TESTING is often broken
> more than unstable (mainly missing dependancies or completely missing
> apps (e.g. K3b was absent from testing for many months!)). SID
> appears to be the best choice for Debian desktop (regardless to what
> official policy states) and as such it is chosen by many.
>
> Yes, I am ready do deal with minor breakages. However, X not
> starting, KDE ot starting ... this is not a minor problem but a fatal
> show stopper. This proves lack of software quality testing in the
> Debian release model. In my opinion the released Xorg 7 package
> belongs still to experimental.
I dunno 'bout proof of anything re: QC from the current status of Sid
(which I run), but I Can say that I've learned to pay attention to good
subject headers when I scan the list for goodies to read.
It was obvious after a 3 day break to the beach that Sid had some
troubles. Some of those headers were worded almost exactly like yours.
No upgrading at the moment...
More power to those who write good Subject lines! ;-)
(I guess I run my own QC department.)
I think it's a bit tough to test every gawd-ahwfuhl configuration if
you are one of the (few) maintainers for a given package in this great
distro. My hat's off to every last one of them!
Kenward
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joey Hess [mailto:joeyh@debian.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:41 PM
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
> >
> > ?á?ek Kry?tof wrote:
> > > Well, this transition could have been prepared better -
> > testing stuff
> > > in such state on human beings is not ethical.
> >
> > People running unstable are expected and required to be able to do the
> > following:
> >
> > * Deal with minor breakages.
> > * Report bug reports when things break.
> >
> > This is well documented an there is nothing unethical about it.
> >
> > > X did not start
> > > ==========
> > > The symbolic link /etc/X11/X was wrongly set to /bin/true Should be
> > > set to /usr/bin/X11/Xorg
> > >
> > > KDM did not start
> > > =============
> > > /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc contains wrong line:
> > > ServerCmd=/usr/X11R6/bin/X ... there is no such file
> > >
> > > should be
> > >
> > > ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X11/Xorg or better /etc/X11/X
> > >
> > > Keyboard layout tool error
> > > ==========================
> > > kxkb not working anymore
> > >
> > > I had to install xkb-data
> > >
> > > Some special keys do not work anymore
> > > =====================================
> > > Cannot switch to virtual consoles with Alt-Ctrl-F1
> > >
> > > Dead keys (?) do not work anymore (e.g. for characters like ?)
> >
> > Please use reportbug to file bug reports on the appropriate
> > packages for these problems.
> >
> > --
> > see shy jo
> >
> >
>
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