Re: lists.debian.org vs google groups
kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
IMHO debian lists are the sources of a lot of spam these days. Over
the past few years that I have been using Debian, the list masters
were not able to eradicate the spam problem on these lists. I agree
that they have been doing a great job in filtering out spam. But If I
look into my gmail spam folder, most of the spam emails are addressed
to firstname.lastname@example.org (where xxx are the debian lists that I am
subscribed to. I was thinking what I could do to eradicate this
problem and thought that creating google groups is an option.
But the disadvantages with google groups is that
(1) It will split the user base across d-u and yyy (where yyy is the
name of the new google group).
(2) google is a company and I am not very sure if relying on a service
provided by commercial companies would be a good idea in the long run.
(3) It requires a google/gmail account. But IMHO, the effort spent in
creating a gmail/google account is well justified, if you want to have
a spam free mailing list,
The advantages I see are
(1) A web interface to subscribe/unsubscribe and change mail/digest/no
email options. So we will not see those unsubscribe emails.
(2) If we set 'only members can post', it removes the spam problem.
Currently the lists are spammed because anyone can post to the mailing
list without subscription and the spammers are taking advantage of it.
Is there anything that can be done with lists.debian.org that cannot
be done through google groups?
Please feel free to express your opinions on this issue. If enough
users feel that this is a good idea, I am willing to create and
moderate that group. Also, if you like the idea, suggest some names
for the google group.
The lists are spammed, I agree. But being able to post without
subscription is part of the openness Debian wants to achieve. This was
probably born when spam was no concern. I don't think *moving* the lists
to a group is a good idea, though you can always create a Debian user
group at gmail groups. I'd happily participate. But going official is
Isn't filtering spam locally an option?