Re: Debian vs. Debian vs. Debian vs. Debian
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:02:56 -0500
Felix Miata <mrmazda@ij.net> wrote:
> Knoppix from CD seemed to run just fine, but after running
> knoppix-installer, Knoppix from HD hasn't worked too well. It doesn't
> seem smart enough not to keep every kernel module it ever heard of from
> staying loaded (Etch also has way too many lines to fit on screen at
> once in /proc/modules, 3543 bytes in Etch). After several hours uptime,
> it slows to a crawl with "out of memory", though seems OK until then.
> Both 'init 6' and 'shutdown -r now' fail to reboot the system, leaving
> me looking at a "Rebooting..." message until I push a button. I have yet
> to figure out how to get portmap to start automatically on boot. Its Sys
> V editor has a totally baffling UI. Same problem as Etch with NUM.
As stated by the Knoppix developers themselves, it is not meant to be installed. You can install it to HDD, but it was built to be a live CD. You might be better of running it as a poor-mans-install (there are a few variants, may favorite is the one where you run it from the .iso copied to a NTFS (or any other fs) partition
> Xandros' installer seemed to work perfectly, but I have yet to make the
> installation boot. Loading Lilo on hda19 directly from BM, the screen
> shortly goes black and stays that way unless I select the last of the
> three boot options. Choosing the last (expert), it displays loading
> messages for a while, but never gets past 'Recovering nvi editor
> sessions... done.' CAD does restart it, and it does seem functional by
> chrooting from some other boot. If I chroot on Knoppix boot and try to
> run lilo, I get 'Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/hda19")', and no output
> from 'fdisk -l /dev/hda'.
You need to remount /dev into hda18 before chroot-ing and also mount /proc. I repaired a Xandros install like this, after a repartitioning where the numbers had changed...
> I later tried adding the Xandros kernel and initrd to a new section to
> menu.lst on hda3, but when I choose it I get a kernel panic with "VFS:
> Cannot open root device "hda19" or unknown-block(0,0) Please append a
> correct "root=" boot option", even though the menu.lst section is
> configured like the sections for Debian, Knoppix & Kubuntu all work just
> fine. ATM this kernel line in menu.lst is '/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda19
> 1 splash=0 vga=ask' following 'root (hd0,18)'. I have succeeded in
> installing to 2 other machines previously from the same CD, so I really
> don't know what to try next.
Are you really sure it's on hda19? Did you create/change any partitions after installing it?
> After each failed attempt to start Xandros I try to go back to Etch to
> try to find and fix whatever the problem is. Each of those reboots turns
> into two reboots, as somehow hda7 gets set with a superblock future last
> mount time, and has to ro fsck in maintenance mode and then reboot after
> it's done if I want normal operation. During install, I selected
> hardware clock is set to local time, not to universal time. In Etch
> maintenance mode the shell can't find mc.
The thing with the time is a known issue when you use Knoppix and Debian. It has been discussed pretty thoroughly here on the list. I would help, but don't remember the exact outcome. You should check the archives
> All constructive ideas & suggestions welcome.
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Not very much from my side, but maybe it helps...
Just out of curiosity, what do you need to run all of them at once? I'm not asking about the other os's. You seem like a pretty experienced user, i don't think you need either (K)ubuntu or Xandros. (K)ubuntu is meant to be a Debian for "less experienced" (definitely not your case) and Xandros is build to resemble the windoze (too much for my taste). Debian and a Knoppix CD should be more than enough (Debian -- The Universal Operating System ;) ). Just solve the "last mount time" issue and you're good to go.
Andrei
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