On Sunday 17 July 2005 09:28 am, you wrote: > ls -la /dev/hdc > ls -la /dev/hdd > groups Dear Stephen: Here is the output: sher@localhost:~$ ls -la /dev/hdc brw-rw-rw- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2005-02-26 00:38 /dev/hdc sher@localhost:~$ ls -la /dev/hdd brw-rw-rw- 1 root disk 22, 64 2005-02-26 00:38 /dev/hdd sher@localhost:~$ groups sher dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev sher@localhost:~$ Benjamin