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Re: Sound and Video Problems still with my T3985 Desktop PC



On Sunday 10 July 2005 06:44, Xeno Campanoli wrote:
> Okay, it has been over a week since I had time to
> work on this.  Please accept my apologies, but I've
> been busy.  The previous title was:
>
> Re: [Fwd: Re: Sound problem:  apparently I don't have
> the alsa modules       up yet after all
>
> among others.
>
> I'm going to systematically recapitulate for myself,
> and sharing, the settings I have achieved so far for
> sound (the video problem is one of blurring digits,
> and I'll get to that later if I have time).
>
> joehill:~# lspci
> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P
> DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02)
> 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp.
> 82865G Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
> 0000:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER
> (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #1 (rev 02) 0000:00:1d.1 USB
> Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB
> UHCI #2 (rev 02) 0000:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel
> Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #3 (rev 02)
> 0000:00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER
> (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #4 (rev 02) 0000:00:1d.7 USB
> Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2
> EHCI Controller (rev 02) 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge:
> Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2) 0000:00:1f.0
> ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC
> Bridge (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel
> Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Ultra ATA 100 Storage
> Controller (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel
> Corp. 82801EB (ICH5) Serial ATA 150 Storage
> Controller (rev 02) 0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp.
> 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp.
> 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev
> 02) 0000:01:02.0 Communication controller: Conexant:
> Unknown device 2f20 0000:01:08.0 Ethernet controller:
> Intel Corp. 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller (rev
> 02) joehill:~# lsmod
> Module                  Size  Used by    Not tainted
> snd-intel8x0           19584   1
> snd-ac97-codec         59576   0  [snd-intel8x0]
> snd-pcm-oss            38176   0
> snd-mixer-oss          13432   1  [snd-pcm-oss]
> snd-pcm                59272   0  [snd-intel8x0
> snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss] snd-timer             
> 14148   0  [snd-pcm]
> snd                    34276   0  [snd-intel8x0
> snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm
> snd-timer] soundcore               3940   4  [snd]
> snd-page-alloc          4936   0  [snd-intel8x0
> snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd] input           
>        3648   0  (autoclean) i830                  
> 68476   1
> agpgart                46244  10  (autoclean)
> apm                     9964   0  (autoclean)
> parport_pc             23880   1  (autoclean)
> lp                      6724   0  (autoclean)
> parport                26504   1  (autoclean)
> [parport_pc lp] af_packet              13000   1 
> (autoclean) usb-storage            65088   0 
> (unused)
> e100                   50036   1
> ehci-hcd               18412   0  (unused)
> usb-uhci               23344   0  (unused)
> usbcore                62924   1  [usb-storage
> ehci-hcd usb-uhci] sd_mod                 11756   0 
> (unused)
> scsi_mod               95108   2  [usb-storage
> sd_mod] ide-cd                 31296   0
> cdrom                  29828   0  [ide-cd]
> rtc                     6440   0  (autoclean)
> ext3                   81068   5  (autoclean)
> jbd                    42468   5  (autoclean) [ext3]
> ide-detect               288   0  (autoclean)
> (unused) piix                    9096   2 
> (autoclean) ide-disk               16800   6 
> (autoclean) ide-core              108568   6 
> (autoclean) [usb-storage ide-cd ide-detect piix
> ide-disk] unix                   14960 218 
> (autoclean)
>
> Okay, as before the symptom is I can play the songs
> on a Duke Ellington CD, but the tracks show playing
> with no actual sound coming out.  The program I'm
> using is CD Player under Multimedia under the
> Applications pulldown.  We determined previously that
> no cables were obviously connected badly (I have a
> green sound cable going into the appropriately
> labeled "line out" green plug in the back of the
> machine, and you'll see by the specs on the net
> (http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:9PkH8iJNtvQJ:www.
>cyberscholar.com/eMachines/doc/spring05_3985_SF.pdf+T3
>985+Desktop+PC+&hl=en) that the thing has on-board
> sound and the bios has this enabled (just checke
> again).  My friend Bill Warner suggested these
> problems may happen from some kind of conflict with
> the video driver, and that my problems might be best
> solved if I install Sid (test) instead of sarge, but
> I'd like to have sarge going because I want to use
> the system to help QA web stuff from my work.
>
> Finally, I will review below as I go through my setup
> steps from this instruct- ions page
> (http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/alsa.html#sargestoc
>k) I immediately see that I do not have an
> /etc/modules directory, so that must have changed in
> mid-sarge, presumably.  I see the string
> "snd-intel8x0" in modules.conf.  The file has all the
> stuff listed in step 3 of the above referenced
> instructions, and it also has a bunch of stuff that
> says "oss" on it, like:
>
> above sound-slot-0 snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss
> snd-seq-oss .
> .
> .
> above sound-slot-7 snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss
> snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> .
> .
> .
> alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
>
> and I wonder if I need to delete these or comment
> them out...?
>
> There is a whole mess of different discover files and
> directories in here too, including a
> /etc/default/discover, /etc/init.d.discover,
> discover.d, and discover.conf.d, and
> discover-v1.conf, and discover.conf-2.6 and
> discover-modprobe.conf.  I wonder if I just deleted
> all those things if it might somehow improve the
> state of politics in the world.
>
> Anyhow, if anybody out there could get me a little
> further with this additional information, I'd sure
> appeciate it.  I'd like to know I can really use this
> machine before the takeback time (next Friday is the
> last day) comes due.
>
> Sincerely, Xeno Campanoli

Please see the post I just posted a few minutes ago 
trying to help Trace Green with a problem with the same 
driver.

My suggestions are you've either not unmuted the sound 
settings or you've got the dreaded "AC97 Quirk" and 
need to be focusing on Headphone volume to control 
actual master volume.

If you have Linux kernel source installed, check out 
<linux kernel source dir>/Documenation/sound/ALSA 
Configuration.txt for info on the "quirk". 

If you haven't got amixer on your machine, apt-get 
alsa-utils to get it then use amixer to check and if 
necessary modify the mute state and volume of your 
Master, PCM, and other settings. If this succeeds and 
doesn't help try modifying your Headphone settings 
(unmute and set vol) as you may have the "quirk". If 
you do you have the option of trying to get the driver 
to work around it or just living with it (which is what 
I'm doing so far).

For the rest of the detail, see the post I just posted 
before this.

Mark

PS your lspci and lsmod output look healthy, at least to 
my no-better-than-mediocrely-tutored eye. But if you 
haven't set volume and mute settings on your mixer 
since switching to the ALSA driver, they'll be muted, 
dollars to doughnuts...



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