On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 02:47:19PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
> --- "Steve C. Lamb" <grey@dmiyu.org> wrote:
> > Nope. It's spot on. Forcing people to learn loads up front to
> No, I've said, it's just another means to configure something. If
> something is predominately a text-based configuration, then that can be
> just as intuitive as a graphical one, IMO.
Not true. To configure with a text file I have to know far more than I
need to know with internal configuration.
a: Where the configuration is located.
b: The format in which the configuration is expected.
c: The possible potions the configuration file expects.
Internal configuration mitigates A and B and can provide prompts for C.
For example in XFWM I can double click the menu bar to shade the window, close
the window, minimize the window or have it be ignored. All that information
was presented to me in a simple dropdown. Granted this could be imparted in
the configuration file through the use of comments but that makes many
configuration files completely unwieldly. Squid's configuration file is a
prime example for that. o.O
> > Several less steps. Less change for breakage. Tell me, presuming a bad
> > default configuration which prevents access to a shell through the X
> > session and using a thin client for connectivity how exactly is one
> > supposed to effect changes to the configuration file when one can't access
> > the darned thing to modify in the first place?
> Any editor will do at the console -- nano, jed, vim, emacs, etc.
You're not grasping the scenerio I described. One, I might add, I didn't
ull out of my ass because I ran into it while working on a thin client
implementation. Let me explain.
Bad configuration which prevents access to shell through the X session: No
shell via X. None. You hit it and because of a typo in the configuration
file the shell does not start.
Using a thin client: IE, it provides a display for remote applications to use
but does not have a console of its own. VNC being the most recognizable but a
hardware X thin client is not out of the question.
So, nano, jed, vim, emacs, etc all *are useless because you can't use any
of them as there is no access to them*.
> > configuration inside the application itself, readily accessible does not
> > preclude text file configuration. If you think it does, go try
> > configuring
> I never said it did.
Sure are acting like it.
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