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Re: Backup Solutions

On Saturday 29 January 2005 11:27, Jack Nguy wrote:
>Haha. Good point.
>On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:12:53 -0600, Ron Johnson 
<ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 09:02 -0500, Jack Nguy wrote:
>> > Why removable? Why not RAID or something?
>> RAID where, exactly?  His Dell 1750 server?
>> > Jack
>> >
>> > On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 01:35:18 -0800 (PST), Alvin Oga
>> >
>> > <aoga@ns.linux-consulting.com> wrote:
>> > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, George App wrote:
>> > > > I recently purchased a Dell 1750 server.  I plan to install
>> > > > Debian on it.  What are some good removeable backup media
>> > > > backup solutions.  The server will primarly be used for
>> > > > central file storage/sharing and printing.
>> > >
>> > > 4GB or 8GB backup on a dvd ..
>> > >
>> > > or buy some (cheap) tapes and expensive drives and good head
>> > > cleaners

That was my first choice, and when specifying cheap tapes, you mean 
DDS2.  But i gave up on the drives due to short life of the drives.  
In 5 years I wore out the drive in 5 of Seagates 4586N changers.

>> > > or use a 2nd server[s] with lots of disks space too as a live
>> > > backup ( my preference .. good for up to 100TB live backup per
>> > > 42U rack )

Thats my current choice, a 200GB drive, not even seperate, the last 
180GB is /dev/hdd3 now in this box.
>> > >
>> > > or ... use your imagination ( requirement ) for what is "some
>> > > good removable backup solutions"
>> > >         - you obviously have some ideas in mind

I investigated the dvd solution, and even bought a drive, but dvd+rw 
and dvd-rw disks have since disappeared from the dealers shelves, and 
I've found the lite-on burner that purports to be able to use such 
disks, cannot erase those disks I paid $78 for a spindle of 25 when I 
bought the drive.

As it stands now, I would only consider the use of a different disk 
technology called dvd-ram, but those units seem to be all setup to 
operate in vcr mode for tv recording and such, none that I've seen 
actually have a scsi or atapi interface available.  But then the only 
ones I've seen are the pioneers intended to be vcr workalikes.  The 
tv station has a 6 pack of those, and they are working pretty good 
for program delay purposes in good old Never Twice Same Color mode...

The dvd-ram claims as much as 100k write cycles and unlimited reads, 
where the dvd+-rw's I bought are only rated for maybe 1000 cycles.
So basicly I've relegated them to making an occasional linux install 
dvd only.  When they have been used up, no more of those will be 
bought, I'll treat them all as throwaways like we do cd's.

>> > > free backup scripts and methodologies and other whackyness
>> > >         Linux-Backup.net
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