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Re: Suggestions Invited

On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 00:20 +0200, Sylvain Vedrenne wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 September 2004 22:48, Robert Brinson wrote:
> > Currently, I am a Gentoo Linux user. It is a great distribution for
> > people who want fine control over their system. I enjoy being able to
> > just emerge whatever_program. However, I am getting a little tired of
> > having to compile every little obscure library for a point update. So,
> > I guess you could say I'm in the market for a new distro.
> >
> > I have used Red Hat (not Fedora), Mandrake, and Gentoo. Of all of
> > them, I enjoy the control I have with Gentoo. I guess I'm looking for
> > a distro that will allow me to obtain the latest xorg or gnome or
> > firefox without having to go through a three hour compile session. RPM
> > is not suitable for this, as I know from experience. Red Hat and
> > Mandrake are very picky about dependencies making an upgrade of gnome or
> > kde nearly impossible. One ends up in the RPM equivalent of dll hell.
> > apt-get seems well suited for my needs. That is why I am posting to this
> > debian list. However, when I browsed the package repositories on
> > debian.org, I was disappointed. The stable repository is woefully out of
> > date. The latest unstable gnome is version 2.6, and xorg is not even
> > listed. Is it possible to easily have a debian install with the latest
> > gnome 2.8 and xorg 6.8.1? I did see a debian-based distro called ubuntu
> > that has gnome 2.8 out of the box. However, their faq says that one
> > should not mix mainstream debian debs with ubuntu debs. So, that distro
> > would preclude me from taking advantage of all of the packages in the
> > debian repository. So, does anyone have advice for this situation? Am I
> > asking the impossible of the current state of debian?
> >
> > "The solution to any problem -- work, love, money, whatever -- is to go
> > fishing, and the worse the problem, the longer the trip should be." –
> > John Gierach
> Hi,
> Do you really need gnome 2.8 right now? Is it really stable and good? (I don't 
> know. I'm using XFCE). 
> Is it worth using Debian with Gnome 2.6 or rather another distro with Gnome 
> 2.8? I would say it really depends on your priorities and your actual needs. 
> If you don't really need Gnome 2.8 right now, then wait until 2.8 is ready, 
> but enjoy Debian from now on!
> ...And if you _really_ need Gnome 2.8, then: install Debian, go fishing ;-) 
> and come back when Gnome 2.8 is available as a .deb package!
> Have fun whatever you choose.

take a look here:
[greg@duke:~]$ dpkg -l | grep gnome | grep 2.8.0
ii  gnome-about               2.8.0-1 The GNOME about box
ii  gnome-applets             2.8.0-1 Various applets for GNOME 2 panel - binaries files
ii  gnome-applets-data        2.8.0-1 Various applets for GNOME 2 panel - data files
ii  gnome-control-center      2.8.0-1 The GNOME Control Center for GNOME 2
ii  gnome-desktop-data        2.8.0-1 Common files for GNOME 2 desktop apps
ii  gnome-games               2.8.0-1 games for the GNOME desktop
ii  gnome-games-data          2.8.0-1 data files for the GNOME games
ii  gnome-panel               2.8.0-1 Launcher and docking facility for GNOME 2
ii  gnome-panel-data          2.8.0-1 Common files for GNOME 2 panel
ii  libgnome-desktop-2        2.8.0-1 Utility library for loading .desktop files - runtime files
ii  libgnome2-0               2.8.0-1 The GNOME 2 library - runtime files
ii  libgnome2-common          2.8.0-1 The GNOME 2 library - common files
ii  libgnomeprint2.2-0        2.8.0-1 The GNOME 2.2 print architecture - runtime files
ii  libgnomeprint2.2-data     2.8.0-1 The GNOME 2.2 print architecture - data files
ii  libgnomeprint2.2-dev      2.8.0-1 The GNOME 2.2 print architecture - development files
ii  libgnomeprintui2.2-0      2.8.0-1 The GNOME 2.2 print architecture User Interface - runtime files
ii  libgnomeprintui2.2-common 2.8.0-1 The GNOME 2.2 print architecture User Interface - common files
ii  libgnomeprintui2.2-dev    2.8.0-1 The GNOME 2.2 print architecture User Interface - devel files
ii  libgnomeui-0              2.8.0-1 The GNOME 2 libraries (User Interface) - runtime files
ii  libgnomeui-common         2.8.0-1 The GNOME 2 libraries (User Interface) - common files
[greg@duke:~]$ apt-cache policy libgnome2-common
  Installed: 2.8.0-1
  Candidate: 2.8.0-1
  Version Table:
 *** 2.8.0-1 0
        990 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org ../project/experimental/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 0
        500 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages

So there now... GNOME 2.8.0-1, it is in experimental to not interfere
with Sarges release.

As far as X.Org... it is coming. Unfortunately Debian has a bit bigger
fish to fry, namely Sarge Releasing somewhere in the next decade.

X.Org is probably going to be Sarge+1 (or Etch as it is known)

greg, greg@gregfolkert.net

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