Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question

[John Summerfield <debian@ComputerDatasafe.com.au>]

Brian Astill wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 04:04 am, David Fokkema wrote:
>
>  
>
> > that's what the point releases are for. Woody release schedule:
> >
> > 	- Debian 3.0, July 19, 2002
> > 	- Debian 3.0r1, December 16, 2002
> > 	- Debian 3.0r2, November 21, 2003
> >    
>
> Oh well, that at least tells me what 3.0rn means.  That's something, 
> little though it is.
>
>  
>
> > And I _think_ the third point release has been put off because of
> > sarge.
> >    
>
> So ... ??
>
> Look, the issue WAS "testing" vs "unstable".  Some people think that not 
> only the decision but its implementation is a simple matter. It isn't.
>
> My ISP does what many do - set up a multiple mirror site for the use of 
> its members.  Debian is included.  I'd like to start up a Debian 
> "testing" system from an install CD - I gather you can't do this for 
> the "unstable" branch.  In order to do this I really need jigdo - to 
> just download a complete CD (or CDs) as I can with every other Linux 
> distro or BSD, is de rigeur.
>
> BTW what is wrong with a clear major/minor dot numeric system, rather 
> than woody/sarge/sid/potato/whatever=stable/testing/unstable(which is 
> really quite stable anyway)/something ?
>
> MY ISP's relevant debian directories look like this:
> /debian-cd/hurd directory
>  
You don't want anything under hurd. It's incomplete, and probably less 
stable than unstable.

> (four off) GNU-K4-CD1.iso
> (four off) hurd-J2-CD1.iso
>
> /debian-cd/images/current/i386/ directory
> (seven off) debian-30r2-i386-binary-1.iso
>  
That's Woody, aka Stable

> /debian-cd/images/woody/i386/ directory
> (seven off) debian-30r2-i386-binary-1.iso
>  
So's that

>  
> debian-cd/jigdo/current/i386/ directory
> does NOT contain jigdo, but files like this:
>  (seven off) woody-i386-1.jigdo  
>  (seven off) woody-i386-1.template
>  
Yeah, you download those then fill in the template with jigdo, not 
necessarily from the same source.  If you had an older Woody it would be 
a good way to get your CDs updated.

>  
>  Whither testing (sarge?)
>  

Check the Debian Weekly News and look for announcements about Debian 
Installer betas. Get the latest and use that: it's one CD and not 
especially large. Install the rest off the net if you can.

>  
>  What does all this mean?
>  
> And Monique and others think this is simple???
>  
Everything is simple when you understand it:-)





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John

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