On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 13:31, Tony Godshall wrote: > According to S.D.A., > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 08:18:53AM -0700 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > S.D.A. wrote: > > > > I agree. I switched from SA several months ago, and am quite happy with the > > > > speed, accuracy of Spamprobe over Spam Assassin. > > > > > > I think this thread has shown that many people have a gross misconception > > > on how SpamAssassin works and how it is fundimentally different than the > > > alternatives listed. In every case the alternatives listed have been a pure > > > Bayesian system. SpamAssassin is *NOT* a Bayesian system. It is a framework > > > in which a Bayesian system is also included. > > > > I think I was pretty fair. The fact that the SA framework is slower (I know due > > to the complexity), is a show stopper for me. If I can achieve better accuracy, > > with less work, increased speed, with less system resources -- Then I've found a > > winner. At least for MY needs. I respect and understand that your needs may be > > different. > > I personally also switched from SA to something else. > > I love the SA framework idea, but its bayesian implementation was such that > spammers could easily get past it by spewing random words. > > So I switched to CRM114's mailfilter. > > But given SA's framework-of-methods methodology perhaps a > better approach would have been to integrate the better > learning filter into SA. Take a look at these messages I had gotten SA is Kicking Arse and Taking err... changing subjects! http://www.gregfolkert.net/files/UltimateSpam.txt http://www.gregfolkert.net/files/AnotherSpam.txt http://www.gregfolkert.net/files/NewUltimateSpam.txt Note that there are three distinct patterns to those three SPAM. I was getting the "AnotherSpam" through quite a bit lately... I added the RulesDuJour(RDJ) script to my Weaponry. I'd have to say, "False Positives" are nearly non-existent (okay 1 out of about 28K messages so far since I implemented RDJ) and "False Negatives" ARE non-existent. I dunno, but SA on my machine mail server, well, is pretty dern quick and doesn't take up any more resources than any other application. Currently I run a Zope Application, Postresql, MySQL, Apache with a butt load of Modules, vhosting (why the butt load of modules) mod_perl, mod_python, etc... In reality, the Zope app is the most hungry. I still regard SA as a model to work by. -- greg@gregfolkert.net REMEMBER ED CURRY! http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup
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