Hi. First of all, there's no need to CC me with any of this stuff. I read the list, obviously. I think the problems you're having are two separate problems: one having to do with the missing KDE session option in gdm, and the other having to do with KDE being de-installed. On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:52:38 UTC Tom Kuiper <tbhk@dsnra.jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: >> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 17:40:34 -0400 >> From: Chris Metzler <cmetzler@speakeasy.net> >> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >> Subject: Re: what happened to KDE? >... >>On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:32:37 UTC >>Tom Kuiper <tbhk@dsnra.jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: >>> >>> I few hours ago I upgraded the "unstable" version (2.4.20 kernel) >>> with'dselect' and found that a KDE log-in session was no longer an >>> option. >> >> I don't know what you mean by "no longer an option." You tried to >> start up KDE but it crashed? Your display manager no longer gives you >> a KDE choice in some menu? KDE was de-installed? > > Aplogies for my vagueness. What I meant was that KDE is no longer > listed as a session option in gdm log-in window. OK. A quick comment: I would strongly recommend taking the time to read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html . . .in particular, the part about "Before You Ask". Searching the web, searching the archives for this mailing list, and scanning the documentation of the software for changes are all good things to try to solve your problem. I mention this because this first issue ("disappearing gdm sessions after upgrade") has been discussed in this mailing list about 10 jillion times in the last few months. A careful search of the mailing list archives should answer this question for everyone. There's also an explanation for what happened in the docs for gdm, located at /usr/share/doc/gdm on your machine. You further say: > Creating a menu > entry requires an appropriate entry in /etc/gdm/Sessions for kde, but > there isn't one anymore. Right. That's what changed. From the changelog for gdm, located on your machine in /usr/share/doc/gdm/changelog.Debian.gz, we see . . . } gdm (2.4.4.7-1) unstable; urgency=low [ various changes snipped ] } * gdm no longer reads the Sessions directory to populate the menu } (closes: #218786) [ more snippage ] } * With the new Xsession.in that uses the Xsession.d dir to start up, } and the /etc/dm/Sessions dir supported by kdm and gdm for programs } to indicate they should be on the session list, all that's needed } is those programs to supply desktop files for /etc/dm/Sessions } (closes: #84396) Sessions aren't kept in /etc/gdm/Sessions anymore. Instead, they're in /etc/dm/Sessions. Putting a KDE session file there should do the trick. The second issue -- the fact that many of your KDE packages were de-installed . . .this one I'm not sure about, but were any of the packages you upgraded CUPS libraries? As was discussed here earlier today, unstable is currently missing the package libcupsys2. I think the package libcupsys2-gnutls is meant to replace it, and the two packages conflict with each other. If you upgraded "cupsys", that would have replaced libcupsys2 with libcupsys-gnutls. However, the package kdelibs4 currently in unstable was built against libcupsys2, and needs to be rebuilt against libcupsys-gnutls. Since it requires libcupsys2, an upgrade of CUPS causes kdelibs4 to be removed; it can't be re-installed, because it requires libcupsys2, which is no longer present in unstable. As discussed in that earlier thread today ("Whom to ask about package system errors?"), the KDE maintainer who needs to deal with this is aware of the problem, but is very sick, and will do an upload when he is able. I don't know if that's what your problem is, but you might wanna check into it. If it isn't, it might be worth going back and seeing what packages you *did* install/upgrade, and using apt-cache or aptitude or p.d.o or whatever to find out why the KDE packages were driven out. That will help to fix things. HTH. -c -- Chris Metzler cmetzler@speakeasy.snip-me.net (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear
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