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Re: TMDA and other challenge-response systems considered harmful

On Tuesday 01 June 2004 08:29, Tom Allison wrote:
> They are also a pain in the neck when you get a CR sent to a
> mailing list.
> But most importantly, and this is from personal experience here,
> they are not very useful.  I played with a CR mechanism for a few
> months on my own mail server and found that I was severely defeated
> by one simple mechanism.  The spammers would fire off their mail
> and auto-respond to my CR.  That created an entirely automated
> system to whitelist their spam into my server.

Wow, what nice spammers you meet: give you real addresses.  Mine all 
use fake sending addresses, so would never receive any challenge I 
sent.  In fact, that is why I always thought some sort of challenge 
system would be effective - it would remove 99% of the spam that 
comes my way, which I, ignorantly, assumed was a representative 


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