Robin Lynn Frank <email@example.com> writes: > On Thursday 06 May 2004 11:30, Paul Johnson, Paul Johnson <firstname.lastname@example.org> > wrote: >> > 1. Reports from people to stupid or lazy to unsubscribe lists or >> > newsletters they receive. >> >> If the postmaster of the wrongly-listed site follows through and can >> prove that the reporting person really did subscribe and can prove >> they confirmed the subscription, then the reporter gets fined, or >> banned if they're a persistent false-reporter. > > So now the postmaster is responsible for fixing the errors of an organization > that doesn't feel it is necessary to validate the data they receive...until > well after the fact? Garbage in. Garbage out. If you are lucky. It works better than it sounds, particularly because it happens fairly rarely. >> > 2. Spammers intentionally reporting legitimate mail sources with >> > the intent to keep the number of false positives high enough that >> > people will not risk using spamcop. >> >> The maintainers watch for this sort of abuse closely and have zero >> tolerence for it. >> > I wish them luck. They don't appear to be overwhelmed with work. >> > In the past few days, I've seen netfilter.org's list and foxnews in >> > spamcop. They were both removed, but the fact remains that they should >> > never have been there to begin with. >> >> FoxNews has newsletters that don't confirm subscription, they should >> have forseen getting listed fairly universally for handling their >> newsletters the wrong way. > > Wow 50% accuracy! I'm going to start bl.flip-a-coin.org. I can get better > results with random numbers. No, that doesn't mean 50% of your email is rejected, unless you never get anything legitimate, only spam. It blocks about half the spam, mostly from the more pervasive spammers. bl.spamcop.net last gave me a false positive in the summer of 2001 while I was on Mt. Hood with my Scout troop (and only because a major spammer was on RoadRunner and RoadRunner's outbound servers got listed for about a day and a half while they were hosting a spammer). > A list that tests for open relays or proxies, validates its data. bl.spamcop.net does that as well. > A list that includes those who have hit their spamtraps, validates > its data. bl.spamcop.net does that as well. > Spamcop does not validate its data until after the damage is done. Only with human-submitted reports. In the future, you may prefer to stick to subjects that you actually have knowledge of. -- Paul Johnson <email@example.com> Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more.
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