Re: Massive increase of spam on debian-*@l.d.o
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Robin Lynn Frank <rlfrank@paradigm-omega.com> writes:
> On Thursday 06 May 2004 00:36, Paul Johnson, Paul Johnson <baloo@ursine.ca>
> wrote:
>> Steve Lamb <grey@dmiyu.org> writes:
>> > Personally I haven't used any of my hosting company's email
>> > servers since setting up my own server. In the same time I've never
>> > sent out virus email or been an open relay. Yet because of boneheaded
>> > ideas like the above I now have to get around idiotic, lazy blocks.
>> > Tired of it.
>>
>> I agree. Dialup/residential IP lists used for blocking purposes is
>> pretty retarded. However, using something like bl.spamcop.net, which
>> only lists currently spamming IPs, is considerably more useful.
>>
> Actually, you can block a lot of infected boxes by blocking dynamic IPs, so
> there is something to be said for it.
I disagree. Dialup/residential IP lists used for blocking purposes is
pretty retarded. There's better ways to block infected boxes.
http://ursine.ca/article.pl?sid=04/04/11/1127234
> But tell me, since spamcop accepts reports from anyone able to click a mouse
> button, which of the following are they NOT subject to?
>
> 1. Reports from people to stupid or lazy to unsubscribe lists or newsletters
> they receive.
If the postmaster of the wrongly-listed site follows through and can
prove that the reporting person really did subscribe and can prove
they confirmed the subscription, then the reporter gets fined, or
banned if they're a persistent false-reporter.
> 2. Spammers intentionally reporting legitimate mail sources with the intent
> to keep the number of false positives high enough that people will not risk
> using spamcop.
The maintainers watch for this sort of abuse closely and have zero
tolerence for it.
> In the past few days, I've seen netfilter.org's list and foxnews in spamcop.
> They were both removed, but the fact remains that they should never have been
> there to begin with.
FoxNews has newsletters that don't confirm subscription, they should
have forseen getting listed fairly universally for handling their
newsletters the wrong way.
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Paul Johnson
<baloo@ursine.ca>
Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more.
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