"but they all mentioned apt-get. With dsl I wont be able to get internet access until i can get my nic installed and set up a pppoe connection. Any ideas how I can get the correct source and where i need to nstall it to? It seems logical its on the binary 1 cd but how do i copy it..." You can apt-get off of your CDs. I saw replies to this, but I didn't see if any recomended this. -Daniel ===== BoxBattle.com - Semper Absurda