Re: debian and women? from DWN #10
On 2004-03-25, Tom Massey penned:
> * Rebecca Dridan <rdrid@dridan.com> [2004-03-25 18:37]:
>> On the other hand, I'm not sure if anyone caught the issue on Full
>> Disclosure. Check this link [0] to see how some females do get
>> treated on tech lists.
>>
>> Bec
>>
>> [0] http://www.oneeyedcrow.net/securitygeekfemme.html
>
> I'm an op on the irc channel involved here. We've had a bunch of
> Gobble's people come in and behave like idiots, also a bit of h@xorish
> probing of the irc server. (Running Woody, and laughing in the face of
> such things). I guess this is because we're foolish enough to not ask
> women to give us blowjobs as an incentive to hiring them, which
> appears to be the Gobble's hiring strategy as shown in the irc logs.
>
> /motd Women are people. In fact women are more peoplish than you. You
> are a broken tennis bat.
See, but in that motd, you already presuppose that women aren't reading
the motd! I say that slightly tongue-in-cheekishly, but surely there's
a point in there somewhere.
Besides, most guys that I've met/interacted with online are definitely
not broken tennis bats. Most guys are decent guys, or at least, they
are sensible enough to act that way in mixed company. These same guys
do seem to be unaware of any possibility of social gender inequality,
despite examples like the one given above being thrown into their faces
on a regular basis, but they're not actively trying to be jerks -- most
are actively trying to be nice guys.
I'm reminded of that saying, "All that is needed for evil to triumph is
for good men to do nothing." I am sure that, while most guys I know are
of the decent sort, if they saw the kind of BS that was posted above,
they'd just ignore it, rather than condemning it. And the fucktards
interpret the silence as agreement, and the women see that this behavior
will just continue ...
I've seen this happen to gay guys, too. At least their names don't give
them away, but man, as much as some degree of female-bashing is built
into the geek culture (witness the number of posts on /. about female
drivers), that's nothing compared to the gay-bashing. I can't imagine
being a gay geek and constantly seeing my sexual identity used as an
insult.
> Unless the brazen evil fuctardedness displayed by Gooble's minions is
> stamped upon soon with a salted rubber wellington, then I expect that
> intelligent life on Earth will cease even earlier than the most
> pessimistic slug could have predicted.
>
> Sorry. Got a bit fed up with kicking Gobbles wankers lately.
They sound like a fun group of people. *snort*
--
monique
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