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Re: Kernel-HOWTO has been removed for review

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:29:50 -0600, 
Terry Hancock <hancock@anansispaceworks.com> wrote in message 
<[🔎] m1AVash-007nh0C@mail.augustmail.com>:

> > > Roberto Sanchez <rcsanchez97@yahoo.es> wrote in message 
> > > <[🔎] 3FDBBD0C.7090802@yahoo.es>:
> > >>Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > >>>.. ;-)  And I need to get time to learn the Debian way.  ;-)
> > >>The Debian way is really a piece of cake.
> > > ..patching too?  How about Netfilter Patch-O-Matic?
> > > 
> >  From `man make-kpkg':
> >   [...]
> Thanks for the tip on the patching options, I didn't know it included
> that.  Cool!  (Because actually, I do have a few patches I want to
> try out ....  hmmm).
> > The most difficult aspect is getting past the initial psychological
> > fear.  My first 6 months using Debian I was petrified of trying to
> > recompile a new kernel.  After I finally took the plunge, I wondered
> > why I had been so scared.

..and I don't even have that excuse.  ;-)

> I started compiling the kernel with make-kpkg when I needed to
> get ALSA working (there's basically no other way to get it right, as
> the modules have to be compiled in any case).  I found that compiling
> the kernel with make-kpkg was actually easier than finding the right
> pre-compiled kernel and module packages.
> In fact, it was almost as easy as using dpkg (not quite).
> I think it's so easy,  in fact, that I'm questioning whether -- with
> just a little bit of improvement -- if it could become the PRIMARY way
> to install a Debian kernel.  

..uh, it isn't?  I thought it is.

> I wonder if it'd be possible to make the make-menuconfig script look
> like (or be preceded by) a debconf configuration process. It's already
> pretty similar.

..it is possible to setup debconf to control make-menuconfig, no?

> My feeling is that with the Debian kernel-package available, the
> main obstacle to compiling the kernel is psychological.  It just
> feels like you're doing something drastic, because there's all this
> lore out there that dates from the old way, and makes it seem
> like a major hacking experience.  But the reality just isn't like
> that. It's no worse than a basic Gnu Autoconf source install, now.
> And given Debian's positioning as a convenience distribution for
> experts, rather than a real newbie distribution, it seems like a very
> compatible idea.
> Of course, I am not a Debian developer.  Just a very satisfied user.

..me too.  ;-)

..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.

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