Re: (OT) Team programming tools
On 22 Aug 2003 19:02:31 +0200,
Benedict Verheyen <linux4bene@pandora.be> wrote in message
<[🔎] 1061571751.7447.6.camel@lancelot.camelot>:
> Op do 21-08-2003, om 19:20 schreef Bret Comstock Waldow:
> > On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 04:23, Benedict Verheyen wrote:
> >
> > This is a little difficult to grasp. How does your team handle
> > versions of it's work now? And what language/environment are you
> > coding for?
> >
> > The idea that management won't let an existing team use tools makes
> > me think there's some other background here, and we need to know
> > that in order to give sensible answers. Is it rather that there is
> > an existing tool set in place already that isn't useful for your
> > group?
> >
> > A manager too dumb to allow a programming team to organize their
> > work defies sense.
> >
> > Bret
>
> Well, we are a rather small company (25 people) and of those 25
> people, we have 5 programmers, including me. Everytime we sell a
> project management starts whining about time. In other words, they
> sell sollutions but don't really take good guesses at how much time it
> would take to produce the software.
> Allways whining about time, time, time, sigh.
>
> So basically we do not get time to study these tools because they
> don't see the need for versioning and so on. If we would use it and we
> wouldn't lose time implementing such a system, management wouldn't
> complain. That's why i asked for a quick and easy way to start using
> something like that.
..do your estimates and quietly multiply by PI, and tell your twin hair
to do the same, "ask" how much your/his dept lagged behind "last time",
and how Management[Tm] etc felt about that. ;-)
> Additional problem is that one of the programmers hate's commenting
> his code and doesn't like to use tools like a cvs.
> But that's a different story.
..oooh? Not a twin-hair-wannabe kinda type like in Dilbert?
> We would actually be developing faster (reusable code) with these
> tools but somehow they aren't convinced of that.
..so why don't you 4 bail out and prove your own thing? No need to
stand up and wail out like an idiot on SS Titanic's stern deck. ;-)
--
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...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
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