On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 06:21:58PM +1200, cr wrote: > On Tuesday 19 August 2003 01:40, Chris Metzler wrote: > > > > The word "whinge," meaning "to moan fretfully," actually predates > > the word "whine." > > Hmm, I rarely heard it used in England (though I haven't lived there for 30+ > years), but I've heard it used all the time here in New Zealand Though often (I'm not sure why) used to describe the English :-) Richard