Re: OT: America's Army
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 05:42, Aryan Ameri wrote:
> On Sunday 22 June 2003 23:23, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> > Leo Spalteholz <leo@spalteholz.ca> writes:
> > > On June 22, 2003 10:25 am, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
>
> > > > Is this Free Software? It doesn't seem to be. It's nice that the
> > > > US army is willing to release violent propaganda for "Linux"
> > > > systems, but if it's not Free Software then I don't see how this
> > > > is any better than running quake3 or unreal tournament.
> > >
> > > Oh for christs sake, come down from your ivory tower already.
> > > Its better than running quake3 or UT because unless you're stealing
> > > those games, you have to pay for them.
> >
> > No I've seen gratis (free to download) versions of quake3 out
> > there. They might have been demos but they let you play online. And I
> > don't mind paying for software if I am free to copy, modify, etc. it
> > :)
> >
> > > Is that not enough for you? Stop your bitching and complaining and
> > > appreciate this for what it is, a free, high quality game with good
> > > linux support. I think its amazing that this even got done.
> > >
> > > Damn these free software holier than thou zealots really drive me
> > > through the roof. Sorry to everyone else for the rant.
> >
> > I'm sorry that I offended you by pointing out that this is not
> > technically Free Software. Debian aims to be a Free operating
> > system. Now I might run a piece of proprietary software if I really
> > have no choice (I even use Windows), but I always consider the
> > alternatives.
> >
> > I think that the engine to quake2 is available as Free Software
> > (GPL'd I think) and it can load custom maps and such, which are also
> > free. That's much more amazing. A commercial company GPL'd a major
> > game. It's not that surprising that the US army releases a binary
> > only copy of their game for linux.
>
> I don't know why everybody is flaming Bijan. I think his argument is
> valid.
>
> Call me a zealot, or anything you want, but I really care about my
> freedom. Accept is guys, there are people out there, who care about
We're a bit peeved because of his intolerant "I hate software that
I can't copy and modify" attitude. Should I hate homosexuals because
I am heterosexual?
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