On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 01:52, Alvin Oga wrote: > hi ya trevor > [...] > other ways that the system appeaers to be alive and yet dead... > - check that the disks is spinning up ( you should be able to hear > it and feel it spin up ) Also, having your ide cable backwards (not as common these days with keyed cables) can keep your system from going through POST -Mark