nate writes: > then I would remove ppp: A waste of time. The message is about the ppp kernel driver, not the ppp package. > ...unless the problem is comming from something after ppp loads, in which > case whatever script it is seems to be hanging before it gets to print > any output... This is the usual case. -- John Hasler john@dhh.gt.org (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI