Hi Jaldhar, There was no connection. The memory still makes me smile - sorry if it appeared as a criticism - it really wasn't. Someday, I'll learn the knack of telling the right anecdote at the right time. sigh. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org