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Re: Knoppix: Was: The *ONLY* real problem with Debian...



Read it again.  Swap FILE on a MS-DOS partition.  No partitioning
involved.

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 08:52:04PM -0700, Shawn Lamson wrote:
> thanks for the reply - didnt mean for you to have to go to all of that
> trouble :)  I will definitely look at the website before I try it
> anyway.  I have several friends who are eager to try Linux until the
> word "partitition" comes up.  There is even one guy at work who is
> looking into some "swappable" IDE/HD bay so that he can just install
> Linux on one disk and swap it in to try it!  I guess Knoppix isnt the
> panacea, b/c to get these guys interested in Linux they are going to
> want a Desktop like KDE, but to run KDE I assume it is going to take a
> lot of RAM etc, meaning most likely it will require SWAP space, meaning
> partitioning... oh well!
> 
> Shawn 
> --- Kent West <westk@acu.edu> wrote:
> > Shawn Lamson wrote:
> > 
> > >--- Kent West <westk@acu.edu> wrote:
> > >  
> > >
> > >>But in the case of low RAM, if a Linux partition is not available, 
> > >>Knoppix uses the Windows partition and creates a swap file (not a
> > >>swap 
> > >>partition).
> > >>
> > >>Kent
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >
> > >Does it use "freespace" on the drive, or will it destroy data from
> > the
> > >windows partition?
> > >
> > >Shawn
> > >
> > 
> > 
> >  From the Knoppix web site at http://www.knoppix.com:
> > 
> > /Begin quote
> > 
> > 
> >       Question: "But my computer doesn't have that much RAM, so some
> >       programs on the CD won't run at all or will only run very
> > slowly.
> >       Is there some trick that I can use to run KDE and the office
> >       programs/graphics/games?"
> > 
> > Yes. After a /swap/ partition has been initialized, Linux can add the
> > 
> > missing RAM from an area of the hard disk that has been reserved for 
> > this purpose. KNOPPIX recognizes and automatically uses any available
> > 
> > /swap/ partitions. Optionally, a swap partition can be added
> > manually. 
> > However, only experienced users should try this, since repartitioning
> > of 
> > the hard drive is required.
> > 
> > Version 1.5 and later of KNOPPIX can use an existing DOS partition
> > for 
> > its Linux swap data (command mkdosswapfile or in the KDE menus under 
> > "Knoppix"). This also allows one to work with less RAM. The swap data
> > 
> > knoppix.swp on this partition can be erased later to free up space
> > for 
> > other things.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > /End of Quote
> > 
> > 
> > The mkdosswapfile script can be seen at: 
> > http://zork.net/pipermail/lnx-bbc/2001-August.txt (search for
> > "message1" 
> > and then scroll down a quarter of a page to the English)
> > 
> > but here's enough snippet to probably answer your question:
> > 
> > MESSAGE1=3D"Do you want to create a swapfile 'knoppix.swp' on your
> > existing=
> >  DOS partition $p? A swapfile allows you to use huge application
> > packages l=
> > ike KDE even if your computer is low on memory. You can safely delete
> > the s=
> > wapfile after finishing your KNOPPIX session."
> > MESSAGE2=3D"Please specify the amount of diskspace that you want to
> > use as =
> > SWAP. Recommended: 60 - 128. Free: "
> > MESSAGE3=3D"Creating swapfile 'knoppix.swp' on $p..."
> > ERROR1=3D"Sorry, not enough free space on $p. At least 60 MB
> > required."
> > SUCCESS=3D"Swapfile 'knoppix.swp' on $p successfully created."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> =====
> Shawn Lamson
> Debian Gnu\Linux Sid
> Kernel 2.4.19-custom
> XFree86 Version 4.2.1
> 



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