> Well, almost. Thanks -- now I remember having read this before! but > for some reason, the simple startx command puts me right into kde, > without the usual dialog box asking how I want to log in. This > happens regardless of what user I log in as. That is startx's job. I think you can use xinit to specify a different window manager. xinit wmaker -- :1 <subtly shows off his bias> -- Tom Goulet mail: uid0@em.ca UID0 Unix Consulting web: em.ca/uid0/