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Re: Readable web pages -- use CSS (was Re: the older debian user; Debian Senior)



on Thu, Aug 15, 2002, John W. M. Stevens (john@betelgeuse.us) wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 02:10:13AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > My very strong preference here is to disable most <font> antics with a
> > user CSS.
> 
> Why this, instead of simply using Mozilla's GUI?

Because CSS offers far, far, far finer control.  And it's the Right Tool
For The Job.

> > For Galeon and Mozilla, this is userContent.css in the application's
> > config directory (.galeon or .mozilla, appropriate subdirectory).
> > 
> > For more infomration:
> > 
> >    http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UserContentCSS

<...>

> Assuming, of course, you think that the average user can figure out
> CSS and write their own "user CSS" file.

If you'd followed the links, you'd find that I've preempted this concern
by doing same.  There's a ready-to-roll CSS file at the link above.
You've clearly neither read the article nor looked at the CSS file,
however.

> In the very first MacIntosh web browser I ever used, a user could
> set their preferences via a reasonably simple set of GUI controls.

Of the following?

   - Global body text styles (serif, non-serif, and monospace).
   - Global body line heights (sad that this need be corrected, but it
     does on some sites).
   - Header (H[1-2]) styles.
   - Link apperance -- in normal, visited, hover, and click modes.
   - <PRE> and related tag presentation.
   - Textarea presentation.
   - Viewsource presentation.
   - Nuking of embedded objects.
   - Selective nuking of popular advertising banner/box displays.

...all of which I configure.



> So I guess the question before us is: is there a graphical configuration
> tool that you know of that creates CSS files?

While it's possible that a GUI tool could provide interfaces to do some
or much of this, the selection of components is sufficiently complicated
that this would be a very complex tool.  So I've offered a
preconfigured, heavily commented stylesheet, and accompanying article
describing its use.

> Or at the very least, is there a free, web available "how to CSS"
> guide that you know of?

If you're not going to read an article and stylesheet linked to, why
should I post additional links to articles on "how to CSS" (which in
part the linked article is, because I found the existing docs sorely
lacking), for you not to read, when I've already done so in the article
you haven't read?

Peace.

-- 
Karsten M. Self <kmself@ix.netcom.com>        http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
 What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?
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