Re: fernando: Mail delivery error
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 11:32:36PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 05:01:40PM -0700, ben wrote:
> | On Tuesday 30 July 2002 04:26 pm, Craig Dickson wrote:
> [...]
> | > Problem is, I don't think the list server is seeing these bounces;
> | > they're being sent directly to the original sender of each message.
>
> Nah, how does the receiver know the _original_ sender? It just
> assumes that the From: header contains the address where bounces
> should go. Or, in other words, that server doesn't understand SMTP
> and the difference between the envelope and the message itself.
> Someone needs to tell that postmaster to go read some RFCs and then
> get some working software.
>
> | > The list server, therefore, has no idea that there is a problem.
>
> Correct.
>
> | it seems like it should be a reasonable request that obviously
> | abandoned addresses be deleted from the subscriber list.
>
> It is, but if the server never gets a rejection from that address, how
> is it supposed to know?
>
> | does anyone have a clue how to achieve this?
>
> Yep. Fake the bounces. <grin> Overwhelm the MLM with forged bounces
> from the errant site so that the address is automatically removed from
> the list(s). I haven't tested this, and maybe the MLM attempts to
> detect a forged bounce. If it does, then you can't do anything except
> a combination of filtering on your end and trying to introduce the
> site's postmaster to SMTP.
Anyone have a nice procmail recipe for these "fernando" bounces? I was
trying to think how to do it, and got lazy.
- Chris
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