On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 05:01:40PM -0700, ben wrote: | On Tuesday 30 July 2002 04:26 pm, Craig Dickson wrote: [...] | > Problem is, I don't think the list server is seeing these bounces; | > they're being sent directly to the original sender of each message. Nah, how does the receiver know the _original_ sender? It just assumes that the From: header contains the address where bounces should go. Or, in other words, that server doesn't understand SMTP and the difference between the envelope and the message itself. Someone needs to tell that postmaster to go read some RFCs and then get some working software. | > The list server, therefore, has no idea that there is a problem. Correct. | it seems like it should be a reasonable request that obviously | abandoned addresses be deleted from the subscriber list. It is, but if the server never gets a rejection from that address, how is it supposed to know? | does anyone have a clue how to achieve this? Yep. Fake the bounces. <grin> Overwhelm the MLM with forged bounces from the errant site so that the address is automatically removed from the list(s). I haven't tested this, and maybe the MLM attempts to detect a forged bounce. If it does, then you can't do anything except a combination of filtering on your end and trying to introduce the site's postmaster to SMTP. HTH, -D -- If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. I John 1:9 http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/
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