> You asked your question *an hour* ago, on a *weekend*, on a list > operated by *volunteers*. What did you expect? That nobody here has > lives, and we check the list every five minutes just to see if there's a > question that we can answer? Somebody needs a reality check. Agreed. This made me curious enough to look at the timeline. In fact it appears that Stephen submitted a post to the mailing list at his local time of Sat 2:19pm PDT and then waited exactly 54m10s before posting a second note with a scathing tone suggesting why are people keeping him waiting for that long! Another 5m4s later he posts again indicating that he had just subscribed to the list and where was everybody? He was upset that people were not responding to him. Total elapsed time 59m14s. Another 14m47s later he posts the same question he had originally posted. Total elapsed time now 1h14m1s. Stephen seems to have a basic misunderstanding about the unpaid and volunteer nature of the contributors to this mailing list and seems to expect a direct and immediate response from his mailings. I expect this to create quite a bonfire of responses. May I suggest a level of restraint be applied? This is one person with a mistaken understanding about how this mailing list in particular and user groups in general work. It is not the first time nor will it be the last. Bob I extracted the postings. I might as well share it here with you so you can make your own conclusions. > * To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > * Subject: xfree > * From: Stephen Turner <artic_knight@yahoo.com> > * Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:19:22 -0700 (PDT) > > I went through the default configuration tool several times, I dont know > the exact specs of my monitor but I do know it worked with woody a while > back (havent used debian in a while) under those same settings, however > now it just gives me a jumbled almost snowy looking screen im not sure how > to configure x to work now, I was wondering what you recommend? im running > a athelon tbird 1.4 system on the ali chip set with 256 ddr and geforce2 > 32mb ddr the monitor is a vision graphic thanks for any help > * To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > * Subject: does debian really suck this much? > * From: Stephen Turner <artic_knight@yahoo.com> > * Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:13:32 -0700 (PDT) > > what the heck? people seek help on debian and dont get answers, people are > getting insulted and debian supposedly has a good rep? no one answers > questions around here! no wonder debian has a rep of being the hardest > damn distro to install. no one can get solutions to their issues. > * To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > * Subject: well.. > * From: Stephen Turner <artic_knight@yahoo.com> > * Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:24:36 -0700 (PDT) > > this list doesnt seem to be crowded, ive been on it today and havent seen > hardly any traffic! you wanna see keeping up with posts? go to gentoo, > where their user base is much less and yet they get more done! however > they dont have as wide a selection of packages and their os being > optimized is huge in mb, and not performing much better. im sorry for > snapping like that but from what I see debian has dead mailing lists. > however if you didtn answer my post or other posts due to it being > previously answerd a simple "you can find your answer here" would be nice. > as most linux users on most mailing lists ive been on so far tend to do. > * To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > * Subject: snowy xfree, bug? > * From: Stephen Turner <artic_knight@yahoo.com> > * Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:39:23 -0700 (PDT) > > hey im sorry bout the flame, I dont really have an excuse so, ill just > give you my apology :) > > anyways I got either a bug or most likely im not configing this right, I > was wondering if someone was wiser than I and perhaps could shed some > light on it, I was using woody a few months back, quite a few I believe, > and I had it configed and working fine under xfree, now however ive > noticed the bootstrap has changed some and the xconfig has changed some as > well, ive tried using my same settings but they dont seem to work, ive got > a geforce 2 32mb ddr a athelon tbird 1.4 with ali chipset, ddr ram, and a > vision graphic monitor, ive yet to find the actual specs on the monitor, > if someone finds something I would be most grateful :) ive checked google > and harware sites, didnt pick up anything. anyways, the xfree screen seems > to error out or have a bad config, but when it comes back to the console > everthing is snowy, theres like 4 blinking spots which I presume to be the > cursor, it seems it trys to keep the resolution but not use xfree!... I > have to reboot my system every time the config doesnt work, ive run > through it a few times and tried what ithought were resonable > configurations, ive tried using settings that were lesser than my monitor > even to see if that could help. if you got some suggestions I would > greatly appreciate it :)
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