Re: inappropriate racist and other offensive material
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:38:59PM -0600, DvB wrote:
> "Kurt Lieber" <debian@kirpatrick.com> writes:
>
> > Lazarus Long said:
> > > Again, there is no excuse for racism in Debian. Other packages have
> > > elided the inappropriate material in the past, as they should.
> >
> > No, they shouldn't. Debian is not about censorship. I personally find the
> > quoted joke offensive, but I'm not about to say he doesn't have a right to
> > include it if he so chooses to.
> >
>
>
> I'll probably regret getting involved in this discussion but,
> personally and apropriateness of offensive material in Debian aside, I
> think the "joke" (as I saw it, out of context, in the quoted text of
> another message) is only offensive if you think that there's something
> wrong with posessing that particular skin pigmentation. Being compared
> to the luxurious item mentioned, to my knowledge, advocates no common
> stereotypes and, if anything, could be taken as a compliment.
comparing a human being to an automobile is not compliment, even if we're
talking saabs.
>
> If I were to tell a person with red hair: "Wow, your hair is so red that
> it looks like it's on fire" that person would probably only take offense
> if having red hair were considered undesirable. The same goes for
> comments on stature (height), eye color, country of origin, the
> political party your mother's affiliated with... and the list goes on
> and on.
>
...apples and oranges. making fun of someone's race is at a
completely different level. sure, discrimination exists with
practically everything, but that doesn't (and shouldn't) innoculate
racism from criticism and censure.
> As a final throught, it sounds like everyone's automatically assuming
> certain things about the author of the program in question (namely
> racial heritage and the intent of the text).
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
>
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