Ben Inspires Newbie
Thanks, Ben. Copied to hard disk and backed up.
Bruce<+>
----- Original Message -----
From: "ben" <benfoley@rcn.com>
To: <bburhans@earthlink.net>
Cc: "debian-user" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 10:41 PM
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> On Saturday 02 February 2002 08:22 pm, Bruce Burhans [a newbie]
wrote:
> > Ben. Thanks. I've seriously looked into the dual-boot approach and
> > concluded that I'm very likely to end up with two non-working OSs.
If I
> > had more experience or a pro like you for a neighbor, sure. But I'm
> > basically on my own and a true newbie.
> > I'll just set the BIOS for standard VGA, no sound, no
> > winmodem (have external, controller-based one) and boot order-
> > CD-floppy-HD. Put the boot partition on the first part of the disk
and
> > let Linux have its way with the MBR and format and partition table.
Turn
> > off PnP in LILO config, etc. I'm getting it, and I *really* want
to be
> > firmly in the Linux world. Looked into them all, and Debian is where
the
> > action is, so here I am.
> >
> > Bruce<+> bburhans@earthlink.net
> >
>
> then maybe the first thing you need to set up is a solid backup and
retrieval
> system, so that you can feel assured of being able to restore what you
had
> before you started. i see you standing at the precipice, having read
all the
> maps and knowing there's something to land on on the other side, but
> confounded by the fog, doubting you can do it. once again, if an
honest count
> were made, you'd find a lot of company. the fact that you know where
you're
> at, right here, tells me it's just a matter of time. debian, if you'll
pardon
> the *, is the sh*t. i've had a lot of varied experience with linux,
from
> first downloading 13 floppies to run the umsdos version (unix[like] on
a
> pc--no way. yes, way) that i'd read about way back in a tiny article
in
> computer currents, the sears catalog for tech junkies, then finding
slackware
> (solid but troublesome, as oxymoronic as that may seem) and on through
> redhat--the nearest thing to what you're using now that linux gets
to--into
> suse, which has, sadly, long since gone the same way. i can' remember
when it
> was that i became aware of debian, but it piqued my curiosity from the
start,
> but had the rep of being hardcore, like forget everything else you
thought
> you knew. as my resentment of suse's dive into corporate market share
reached
> it's zenith, i thought, okay, the only thing between me and the sh*t
is
> mandrake. got it, did it, got real bored real soon. mandrake, sweet as
it is,
> is just like the one that you know who will, like going to macdonald's
and
> pretending it's food. after a while, you know that what you really
want takes
> a bit more effort, but it is really what you want. that's why i'm
here, and
> it sounds to me like that's why you and everybody else are here.
>
> do whatever it takes because i know that you'll feel the same
satisfaction
> that i do, as i imagine does everyone else here, when you know for
sure that
> you're in a good place where the quality of your experience depends
only on
> the quality you want to see in yourself, where the same rules of
honor,
> decency, compassion, and truth that we all wish the world ran on
actually
> happen here, however silently it sometimes seems. mistakes are made,
toes are
> stepped on, words are written that are often regretted, but nobody
with any
> sense challenges anybody else's right to be here because all of us
benefit
> from all of us being here. for example, i get the chance, right now,
to try
> to find words for all of that. i ain't no pro, and there are many more
here
> who are all just trying to do the right thing and find that this is a
great
> place to do it.
>
> do it, bruce. jump. flying has its own rules that still have a lot to
do with
> gravity, and it sounds like you know that. it's like going to a
foreign
> country--they might speak funny, but they still eat dinner and put
their
> pants on the same old way. i guess that's not really true--it's a bit
more
> like going to live in that foreign country and hoping to assimilate as
soon
> as possible. the thing that you have to keep in mind is that the same
> divisions--here, in terms of expertise--exist as in the place you come
from.
> the deal here is that this is the language you want to speak, the food
you
> want to eat, the weather you want to wake to, the revolution you might
> imagine that will make the world more like the place you want to live
in.
>
> secure the life critical stuff--backup/retrieval--so that you can do
what you
> need to do, and make the jump. you have nothing to lose but your
chains,
> because--though i fashion a dialect--the chains of bill g(r)ates.
>
> ben
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