Re: Fwd: Debian Won't Install! (System Locks Up)
Adam wrote:
> BTW, what release are you installing? stable? testing?
I installed "Woody" at the advice of the list, previously;
since it was possible that the console problem had been
fixed. I've heard on the Red Hat list, people that said
they would rather be using Debian, but that their video
card is incompatible with it.
Anyway, what you say here brings up another thing:
I HAVE A DREAM: to someday be rid of my pernicious
dependence on GUI's!!!
I used to use a Z-80 CP/M system, (Remember DDT? "Kills
Bugs dead!" ;-) I was more productive on that system,
using the simple text-based tools it had, than I have ever
been in Windows. Then, I believed that it was an
"inalienable right" that a person receives development
tools along with the OS, *whatever* OS it is.
But then I was taken by a long-term illness; and now I come
back to the world of computers, and find EEEEVIL: WINDOWS!
AAAAAAAARGH! Now, everything is different. You can't even
print a list of your files from Windows! What is THAT all
about?
I want to do Email and all, from console. So that when X
screws up, I don't have to worry about my mailbox
overflowing at my provider (who makes the mailbox fill
faster by sending me "notifications" that my mailbox is
going to overflow! ;-)
I've used lynx; so what else should I know about? What's a
good Email client? How I can I figure out "the Debian way"
of doing the usual tasks, from the console? (Play CD's,
for instance, or listen to Internet radio, or MP3's, all of
that).
I would appreciate any & all ideas.
Thanks!
--Mark VII
pampaluz@home.com
On Thursday 10 January 2002 01:10 am, you wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 12:23:37AM -0800, Mark Seven
Smith wrote:
> > Heh.
> >
> > I've been offline all this time; I still *CRINGE* at
> > the thought of what I did to my Red Hat installation,
> > so I won't go into it (YIKES!) but I was stuck with
> > having to get Debian up & running--I tried everything!
> > But nothing worked. So, I put in an old Cirrus Logic
> > card, with a whole megabyte of video RAM (the thing
> > makes weird blotches on the screen when I move the
> > mouse over title bars and such, really a pain,
> > something's damaged on the card), so now I am going to
> > be stuck with this card for now with Debian.
> >
> > I tried to get online with Debian, but I cannot. I
> > need to learn a lot more about this (I am using a cable
> > modem; yeah, @home is gone but my cable company is
> > still keeping things going for now)...right now, I am
> > running a freshly-installed Red Hat 7.1, just to get my
> > Email and talk to this list!
>
> In root - ifconfig will tell you if ethernet card is
> online. If not just insmod with modprobe or something.
> Heck, you can get pump, a crappy [buggy] RedHat DHCP
> client but there are better ones in Debian... That is
> assuming you're ISP is using DHCP to get IP.
>
> > I am going to find a way to trade this card in with
> > some computer store (Computer Depot and others take
> > trade-ins) but I want to know: what's a good video card
> > that WORKS WELL WITH DEBIAN? I want 64 megs of video
> > RAM, I figure; and to *hopefully* spend around $50+
> > dollars (I'll go to $100-$120 or so for a good
> > all-around card if it will GIVE ME NO MORE VIDEO
> > HARDWARE PAINS!!! :-)
> >
> > So: any ideas? Yes, I know there is a hardware
> > compatibility list, but I look at it, and I don't know
> > what I am looking at, or for...I've had no luck with
> > eBay; I guess I'm not fast enough placing a last-minute
> > bid, or something.
>
> There is not hardware compatability list specific to
> Debian. Any card should work for Virtual Console. It runs
> on old VGA card from 1988 on my 486 box :) But you might
> want to get ATI Radeon 64DDR. The best card to get for 3D
> accel under X. It is about $200 or so... A cheap version
> like ATI Radeon 32DDR is good as well and runs at around
> $100 or so. Beware of the VE or some other water downed
> versions.... Substandard hardware.
>
> > Anyway, thanks in advance (and all the advice in the
> > Email I just received is well taken; I will read and
> > use and learn it all, thanks! :-)
>
> To get your nic running, first make sure you can get it
> up
>
>
> ifconfig eth0 up
>
> if that works then you probably just need to get IP with
> DHCP client. pump will work but only if you have no more
> than one nic.
>
> IMHO, any video card that works with RedHat or anything
> should work with Debian. At least for text mode. RedHat
> has nothing special for video cards.
>
> I also noticed in your attached mail that you can't
> access virtual console -- if that's the case then
> something is really hossed with the installation.. Debian
> usually has good default install options.
>
> BTW, what release are you installing? stable? testing?
>
> - Adam
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