1. Is kdebase the main symbol for starting an apt-get install of kde, or if not what is it? 2. Is there a painless place to get ahold of this jdk-118 thingy? I try the internet address given, and it puts me somewhere which is bewildering, and I haven't found the download page yet. -- Xeno Campanoi xeno@eskimo.com http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno