on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:12:56AM -0800, Greg Wiley (greg@orthogony.com) wrote:
> Good day!
>
> I need to set up an organizational web site that will have some
> characteristics of a weblog (for editorial and news) and some of a
> group site ( shared calendar and contacts, etc.) . I will need to
> develop some specialized applications over time. This is for a church
> so it will have some public functionality and some internal, protected
> functionality.
>
> My goals include extensibility, low operational maintenance, and
> Debian compatibility.
>
> I have looked at several content management systems for a basis and
> wonder what Deb users' experiences are. Some notes on the research so
> far:
>
> - I started installing Slash and found that it requires mods to
> Debian-installed components. It also appears to be a resource hog.
>
> - PHP-Nuke seems good except I am concerned about the tight coupling
> of logic/presentation and how it will affect extensibility and the
> resultant code maintenance.
>
> - Zope and Zope CMF are also interesting, particularly as they are
> Deb packages and are built for extensibility. My only concern is
> that I haven't seen any Z-CMF examples, including the dog bowl,
> that really connect to what I am doing.
Some perspective to add to your search.
Slash code is widely reviled...but it works for Slashdot. Apparently
it's being largely rewritten. I'd probably vote against it.
PHP-Nuke's got some useful features <cough>stolen</cough> from a project
I've some familarity with...but they're the right features to steal.
There are those who'll tell you PHP's not a real language. It's had
some pretty glaring security issues.
Pro: seems to have a nice feature set. Fairly popular for new
forum sites.
Con: how do you feel about PHP?
I've had a hand in designing Scoop, which runs Kuro5hin.org (currently
offline due to a colo issue), see also http://scoop.kuro5hin.org/. It's
extensible, currently serves ~100k pages/day off a 4x PII XEON box. Ran
off of Rusty's workstation for about the first six months of K5's
existence.
Pro: Modular. Good performance. Active development. Nice featureset.
Actively used in projects similar to yours.
Con: Perl. Rusty doesn't listen to all my suggestions ;-)
I'm also part of a community that's now running on a Zope forum pretty
much thrown together in a few days by a friend. Don't ask about the
layout, but it serves a few hundred registered users about 6,000 pages
per day:
http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/board/show?boardid=1
Pro: Modular, quick development. Python -- tends to lead to clean,
reusable code.
Con: Possible performance issues. Some funkiness in the HTML built-in
parsing.
> Since all the solutions require a considerable time investment
> for research and implementation, I am just looking for some
> pre-advice before I get too far down any particular road.
The good news is that _all of these options work_. You're going to have
a working site whichever way you go. I seriously doubt your church will
stress the capacity of any of the systems listed.
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