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Re: some questions (after a HD crash)



Fact and assertion do not necessarily negate each 
other.  Someone used the line on me once and I 
was wowed ;-)  

Regarding consumer pc: you are correct, in my
opinion.  I appreciated that you must have had significant 
experience, because of your carefully worded "pc level hardware".
Is there any chance that the number of IBM PC components 
out there is a facter in the number you have replaced.
Though the ThinkPad series is definitely one of
the best laptop lines, specificially for being solid and
in terms of getting Linux going on it.

USELESS FACT: the upcoming Nintendo X-Box, although somewhat 
specialized, is built by IBM for Nintendo.
"IBM inside" ;-)


Best regards,
Lloyd


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ben" <benfoley@rcn.com>
To: <lloyder@canada.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: some questions (after a HD crash)


> lloyd, your point is well taken, although i feel bound to point out fact and
> assertion do not necessarily negate each other. in ten years of building and
> servicing consumer pc-compatibles, i've replaced more ibm hard drives than those of
> any other manufacturer. there may well be ibm component parts to a great deal of of
> the hardware that i use and work with, and i should have been more specific
> (objective) in my criticism, but you have to admit that ibm's forte has never really
> been in the field of the consumer pc. even the thinkpad is notoriously vulnerable to
> the slightest jolt. believe me, i'm not anti-ibm but the company's strength has
> always been in higher-end architecture. also, i appreciate the inclusion of the
> disclaimer.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> lloyder@canada.com wrote:
> 
> > DISCLAIMER: I am employed by IBM as a software developer in Database Technologies.
> >
> > Ben, fact or assertion?  Assertion.  There is IBM
> > hardware in many PC level hardware components that
> > you own and think are some of the best.  IBM is a
> > major EOM supplier of PC level hardware.
> > Example, IBM made more money on the original i-mac
> > hardware than Apple.  That is probably true of the
> > most recent models too.  Where is the irony?
> >
> > My personal opinion is that western digital have always
> > been the best... but you pay for it $$.  Until this
> > fiasco, IBM harddrives where/are considered
> > some of the best.  Example from just the other day can
> > be found in /. Hemo's posting of his dream machine:
> > fast, quite PC game playing machine, alla, IBM harddrive.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Lloyd
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ben" <benfoley@rcn.com>
> > To: "Darren Wyn Rees" <merlin@netlink.co.uk>
> > Cc: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 3:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: some questions (after a HD crash)
> >
> > > IBM pc level hardware has always sucked, one of the greatest ironies in the
> > > history of personal computing, which goes to show that making the first of
> > > something doesn't necessarily mean that you've made the best. maxtor drives are
> > > pretty solid and relatively cheap, as are fujitsu drives. but, for ide drives,
> > > i've never found any better than western digital.
> > >
> 

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