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Re: RBL for hire



* Bill Wohler <wohler@newt.com> [20010722 17:52]:
>   On http://mail-abuse.org/subscription.html, I read:

Where you been hiding, Bill? That news is two weeks old. =) It seems old
to those that have been following the issue, anyway. MAPS is doing the
CDDB[1] thing anew. *sigh* What foolishness.

* Alvin Oga <aoga@Maggie.Linux-Consulting.com> [20010722 18:27]:
> there are other equivalent lists...
> 
> and a new not-for-profit anti-spam db being setup too ...
> donno if they wanna annouce it yet..
> 
> - if ya  wanna help set it up....email me offline and will
>   forward you to them to help manaage the new anti-spam filters

Hmmm. This is news for me. You can tell me more off-list, by all means,
I'm interested.

I have been conversing with several individuals over the past two weeks
exactly about this, let me quote myself:

   I actually would love to see someone run a just, professional
   blackhole service, which accepts *responsible* offers of help (either
   in manpower terms, or coding, or DNS or bandwidth usage) and uses a
   GPL/BSD compatible license for their code AND database. That would be
   a great day. [I would eagerly support it with monies as well; via
   paypal or that Amazon (*ugh*) thingy.]

What's to prevent the next blackholing service to take gratis
submissions and close the database unto itself? Nothing does. That's a
problem that needs addressing.

Here's a list of the blackholing services I am using for the past number
of weeks, the hit rate is high, particularly with 'or.orbl.org'.
However, in combination all the following services achieve near 100%
open relay hit rates and serve as an efficient MAPS RSS replacement.
MAPS RBL hits, while miniscule in number for me, don't seem to have a
counterpart in the new ORBS replacements.

   BTW, you have heard that orbs.org is kaput?

The osirusoft.com service does DUL blackholing as well. While dynamic
IP, dial-up blackholing is controversial it would please me to have a
GPL'ed blackhole service replicate this as well, if it must be done.

	'or.orbl.org',
	'inputs.orbz.org',
	'outputs.orbz.org',
	'dev.null.dk',
	'relays.ordb.org',
	'orbs.dorkslayers.com',
	'relays.osirusoft.com',

[1] <http://www.slashdot.org/articles/99/03/08/0945228.shtml>

   John

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