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Re: [users] Re: Why can't I?



On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 01:03:57PM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote:
| On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 12:07:33PM -0400, D-Man wrote:
| > It seems natural to me that my home dir is my own private property.
| > Kind of like having your own room or a clubhouse as a kid, with a sign
| > "Keep Out" on the door.  Making it world readable seems like leaving
| > the door open, then wondering why someone is able to snoop about ;-).
| 
| Yeah, but kids have to put their own "Keep Out" signs up.  They
| don't come by default with the door.

:-)

| > I don't mean that unix in general is insecure, but that in this
| > particular aspect it seems to be.
| 
| I still fail to see how it is insecure.  Different than what you, personally,
| might expect, but individuals' expectations are not the ideal standard on
| which to judge security.

Ok.

| > I wasn't really complaining, just curious.  I am certain that there is
| > some history buried in here, like a great deal of other features in
| > Unix.
| 
| Even outside of the Open Source/Free Software circles, *nix culture has, IMO,
| always seemed very oriented towards sharing and collaboration.  It seems
| natural to me, then, that home directories would traditionally have
| permissions set such that their contents can be shared and collaborated upon.
...
| It just seems a lot more reasonable to me for the default to be that most
| things are open, but you can create hidden areas rather then for everything
| to be hidden and no easy way to expose a small part of it without also
| revealing everything else.

Well, public_html is very open and shared, yet my home dir still isn't
world readable.  I have no argument against world executable -- that
is what allows people to get to an open subdirectory (like
public_html) for the sharing and collaboration.

-D



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