Greetings, I, being an open-minded individual (not), decided to take a look at Progeny. Having no spare hardware to junk about with at the moment, I tried to install it in VMWare. It didn't go so well. I did the default setup, and gave it the whole virtual drive to play with (1 gig virtual). It setup hda1 as a 135 meg swap and hda2 as the remainder of the drive. The first part of the installation went okay (graphical interface to install the base system). The problems came after the initial reboot. At this point I _may_ have screwed up the install, but I'm going to tell it as I did it. There is a script that runs called 'discover' that does it's hardware detection. The file is attached. Basically, it runs through everything is /lib/modules/<kernal_ver>/ and tries to load it into the kernel. How slick is that!?! Well, this takes a little while to run, so I thought that perhaps it was hung, the last thing I saw was that it had loaded the virtual hard drive as a scsi device. I think at this point, I gave it a virtual three finger salute. Well it came back around through grub and started again, presumably locking in the same place. I tried to switch consoles, and found that it was waiting for me to select an xserver. Apparently it was confused about the virtual display device. I suspected that it wasn't going to get it right, well, because it's VMWare, and chose SVGA, jumped through a bunch of hoops and it didn't work. I ran through this twice (there was no option for plain VGA), so I told it to skip it. Well, it complained a lot and said it wasn't going to finish until it had done it's graphical bit. Well, I ended up at a login prompt and gave it root with no password: I'm in. I run dselect, and it goes okay I suppose, it gripes about this and that, tries to install lilo (I thought this was particularly humorous), and errors out on a number of packages (presumably because I hadn't finished the install their way). Well, great, no networking. So let's try modconf... nope not there, okay lsmod. Okay, so pcnet32 is installed, great! Hardware detection works! Of course, I haven't given the install any networking parameters, so there is no hope of ifconfig having anything useful. Having manually edited /etc/network/interfaces, I'm going. Still no X. Oh well, this has been an adventure in nothing. I've also attached the output of 'dpkg -l' to show what packages it thinks it needs out of the box. Someone may find it interesting. FWIW, HTH, Brooks
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Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++-==============-==============-============================================ ii adduser 3.32progeny3 Add and remove users and groups to resp. fro ii ae 962-26 Anthony's Editor -- a tiny full-screen edito ii apt 0.3.19progeny3 Advanced front-end for dpkg ii ash 0.3.7-11 NetBSD /bin/sh iU at 3.1.8-10 Delayed job execution and batch processing ii base-config 0.38.0progeny. 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