Just did an apt-get dist-upgrade I'm using Woody, and have not had any problem with ximian's Debian install of Gnome for the past couple months, until now. The upgrade trashes Gnome big time, as well as Sawfish, Gnumeric, you name it... It was something in the upgrade that was added just today....500 k or so of upgrades and Gnome had a dependency tizzy. Help! Save me from KDE and black screens with command prompts! -Glen