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Re: After potato install, why does 1st dselect install so much?



David Wright <d.wright@open.ac.uk> wrote:
> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:45:40 +0100
 [...]
> Quoting Robert Cymbala (cymbaLa@lafn.org):
 [...]
> > Just now I did a fresh install of potato (2.2r2) from CD and chose
> > these tasks:
> > [*] Dialup                  Dialup utilities
> > [*] Laptop                  A selection of tools for laptop users
> > [*] Newbie Help             New user documentation
> > [*] Python                  Python script development environment
> > [*] Python Bundle           Full distribution of Python
> > [*] Python Dev              Full Python development environment
> > [*] Python Web              Python web application development environm
> > [*] Sgml                    SGML and XML authoring and editing
> > [*] Sgml Dev                SGML and XML development environment
 [...]
> > After a reboot, I launched dselect and:
> >  - [S]elect
> >  - upon entering Select screen, pressed ENTER ("- All packages -")
> >  - [I]nstall
> > 
> > It said:
> >   ... 65 newly installed; 89.8MB will be used ...
> > 
> > I don't get it.  Why does dselect "want" to install so much, whereas
> > the operating-system install (from Rescue Disk boot to the "Have Fun!"
> > message) did not?  The main installation routine didn't install such
> > basic packages as ispell and finger, but somehow those two (and 63
> > others) were in dselect's "queue" of packages to be installed.
> 
> What do you mean by "operating-system install"? If you mean the
> part of the installation prior to the reboot, well you wouldn't
> expect that part to install much. 89.8MB, let's see, what's that
> in floppies, sixty? No, that part of the installation only includes
> the packages that are needed to install more packages, i.e. it's a
> classic bootstrap process.


Thank you for the feedback.  It has prompted me to dig deeper into the
install documentation; in fact, I've been able to answer my own
question upon further reading!


My CD set has (where "M:" is CD-ROM in Windows Explorer):
  ---
  file:///M:/install/doc/ch-init-config.en.html#s-preselections
  "7.24 Select and Install Profiles"
  version 2.2.20.0.1, 30 November, 2000

That section says:
"So, you have the ability to choose tasks or profiles instead."


The latest install documentation version has:
  ---
  http://www.debian.org/releases/2.2/i386/ch-init-config.en.html#s-preselections
  "7.29 Simple Package Selection -- The Task Installer "
  version 2.2.21, 21 March, 2001

That newer section says:
"So, you have the ability to choose tasks instead."


Section 7.29 (version on-line) ends with a caveat:
  "The second caveat is that some so-called ``standard'' packages are
  not installed by default. Thus, some software, which we consider
  basic to any Linux system, may not be installed.[6] In order to
  install that software, simply run tasksel -s, without selecting any
  packages, then select ``Finish''."

Footnote #6 reads:
  http://www.debian.org/releases/2.2/i386/footnotes.en.html#6
  "This is due to a bug in base-config which we have fixed for the
  next release. We decided not to change this after Potato release,
  since it was a rather large change, and too likely to cause
  problems."

So, until next release, I need to do ``tasksel -s'' as the final step
of what I called "operating-system install" (better to have said,
"Debian install").  It turns out that I noticed the bug in practice,
and sure enough the latest install documentation addresses it and what
to do about it.

Thank you,
-- 
Robert Cymbala     2nd email:  rCymbala@yahoo.com
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