Hey, I'm using Woody, and yesterday I apt-got Sawfish (I used to use E). Enlightenment had an icon-box that stuff went into when minimized, it looks like Sawfish is supposed to minimize windows right into the GNOME panel. Is their some setting or applet for this? Thanks, Cameron Matheson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/