People recommended uwm, and it sounded interesting. If anyone else is looking to try it, keep in mind that there's no man page, no documention gets installed in /usr/doc, and no documentation of the program at its home page, meaning you'll have to read the source or something to figure out how it works. I eventually had to kill X and restart to get back to a wm I knew how to use. -- Carl Fink carlf@dm.net Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum <http:/dm.net>