I was the originator of the ms-chat/ms-chap error. I was told about it in a phone call with my UNIX help desk. At any rate, can anyone tell me how to get it running on a potato machine? I see the chap-secrets file. Is chap actually ms-chap? -- Arthur H. Edwards 712 Valencia Dr. NE Abq. NM 87108 (505) 256-0834