** On Apr 28, Brad scribbled: > > > i merely think i have a screwy setting here or there that's > > > needlessly duplicating log messages. settings are the bane of > > > my linux existence, still... > > Now, stop right here for a while. syslog isn't Linux - it's a common > > software, created quite elsewhere. Don't blame anybody for something which > > isn't their fault. Don't like the duplicates? Voila - man syslogd.conf and > > configure the beast. Or get syslogd-ng - it's much more versatile. Linux is > > a _kernel_, not an _operating system_. And syslog is a piece of software > > used on almost _all_ Unices out there. > > A little harsh, wasn't that? By "settings are the bane of my linux Yup, it was... sorry > existence" i believe the original poster mean all settings, not > specifically those of syslog-- e.g kernel config, module configs, > sendmail/exim/etc config, samba config, ftpd config, and so on. Looking at it now, you're probably right - but show me a system which doesn't require setting anything and I'll tell you that it's a piece of junk... > That said, the only way to get good at configuring is to read the docs > and configure. Exactly. Make mistakes, correct them and _learn by example_ - it's the only way to get _anything_ working really good. Manuals, courses and whatnot are all groovy things, but without practice they are next to useless. Docs are just a startpoint, that's it > > > your philosophy is also mine--install diddly and add what you need-- > > > the gap between us is a hefty base of knowledge, which is why i get > > > to bug you folks about this kind of thing: you got it, i'm gettin' it. > > I see it a bit in a different light. Install some pre-selected set, read all > > the docs you can, find your ways around and then reinstall the system from > > scratch, with the freshly acquired knowledge in mind - this other time > > you'll know what to install and what not to install. And, remember that > > every single of us here went through much the same process sometime in the > > past :))) (and thank God that you've got dselect and apt and dpkg :)))) > > Nah, reinstall isn't necessary. Just dpkg --purge the useless stuff. > I've even managed to repartition my box without reinstalling ;) (mmmm... > backups) I think the reinstall is actually a good thing for a newbie - it is a good thing to use install in its verbose mode and look at the packages _knowing_ this time what they're for. > i do wonder what the newer installs are like though... They're much better, IMO :)) marek
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