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Re: Unresolved symbols potato and kernel 2.0.36



> Don't upgrade unless you have to.  I always have to remind myself of that
> - if my machine is working and I can do the tasks I need to do, even
> though there is a new fangled a super-cool version of my software, I don't
> have to install it.  I still need to remind myself.

It's not just super-cool versions, it's thing like UDMA support for my
drive.  It's so I can hook up a parallel port zip drive to the thing.  Wine
that will run the programs I need, and so on.
 
> First, is sounds to me like you are using stock debian kernels.  I don't
> know if it is true, but it would not surprise me if the Potato kernel is
> not set to deal with sound modules.  I always think compiling your own

Well I have to use 2.0.36.  2.2 doesn't work for me, remember?  And I use
stock kernels because it avoids another level of confusion and
troubleshooting in situations like this.  I mean, why should I have
unresolved symbols when I am using a stock kernel?  And why does all of a
sudden a list full of geniuses go completely silent?  Grr.

> kernel is a good idea (you learn a lot about your computer and about
> linux), but others have differing opinions.  Oh, and yes, shared IRQs are
> impossible.  At least, I don't think Linux can deal with that setup.  But,
> any linux kernel can deal with any number of serial ports if properly
> configured.  Again, this gets back to building your own kernel.

No they're not impossible.  I am using it on 2.0.36.  COM 1 and COM 3 (DOS)
are by *default* a shared interrupt.  With olny two interrupts assigned to
serial ports you have to do some fancy footwork.  If I do compile my own
kernel (tried with a 2.2.14 one, no help) it doesn't solve the problem.

> The 'unresolved symbols' warnings have to do with module dependencies. 
> Did you run 'depmod' after compiling and installing your sound modules? 

Yup.  Also update-modules.

> You can try to insert the modules by hand using 'insmod', and when you run
> into troubles, you will at least know where you are in the process - which
> modules is not configured correctly or missing.

Same errors.  It doesn't just give me *an* error, it gives me about 40.
 
> I wish I could help more.
> 
> There should be a modules howto!!!!
> 
> Maybe I should write one.  As soon as I figure them out.

I don't think this is a modules thing, it's a kernel thing (very slight
difference, I guess) but more importantly, it's a support thing.  So far
this much-acclaimed Linux community has proven to be a bunch of the
proverbial blind men.  I've been using Linux for about 5 years now, through
all sorts of grief and struggles, and it's just not getting much better. 
What are the advantages of Debian again?  I have a Slackware 96 CD here that
also runs kernel 2.0!  Wow!  Cool!

Like I said, I have maybe an hour a day to spend on this; and all I do is
"patch the dam"

Sorry for the misery all, but it's really frustrating and so far no way out. 
And thanks for your response, I'm glad SOMEONE is out there.

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Jonathan Markevich <jmarkevich@mad.scientist.com>
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