Ok, here's an interesting one, Installed potato recently and added KDE into the equation, Start the machine, everything works perfectly, you can log in via kdm etc, su in a console to do superuser etc. Yesterday tho, i decided i wanted to do something in console, pressed ctrl-alt-f1 to drop to a console, and I can't log in. Any suggestions? I can still do everything in KDE, log in, su etc, but just flat out can't log in on console, even as root. Peter Good.