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Re: I have PINE .debs...



I understand that debian cannot distribute these packages in binary format
as part of its distribution.  I believe that this is because debian is a
legal organization who's policy is not to distribute non-GPL software.

I merely post the files to my personal web site, for people to download
for personal use.  I believe the pine license allows me to do this.  The
legal restrictions relate to the fact that pine, pico, and pilot are
registered trademarks of U.W.  One cannot use those trademarks in a
commercial setting.  My internet distribution is not commercial.

The legal notices on the pine website, and in the pine src dir, seem to
say that I need to append the letter "L" to all modified versions.  That
is what I will do.

To the fact that my packages will not comply with debian policy is a
given.  I got the source from debian.  I merely followed the instructions
on how to compile it.  I offer these packages for people too lazy or
inexperienced to do it themselves.  I think this is a fair use of these
packages.  I will correspond with U.W. to make sure.

   "Use of Pine/Pico/Pilot: You may compile and execute these programs for
   any purpose, including commercial, without paying anything to the
   University of Washington, provided that the legal notices are
   maintained intact and honored."

   "Redistribution of this release is permitted as follows, or by mutual
   agreement:
   (a) In free-of-charge or at-cost distributions by non-profit concerns;
   (b) In free-of-charge distributions by for-profit concerns;
   (c) Inclusion in a CD-ROM collection of free-of-charge, shareware, or
   non-proprietary software for which a fee may be charged for the
   packaged distribution."

NatePuri
Certified Law Student
& Debian GNU/Linux Monk
McGeorge School of Law
publisher@ompages.com
http://ompages.com

On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:

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> On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Paul Nathan Puri wrote:
> 
> > I have pine .debs if anyone wants them, let me know.  I post them to my
> > web site or email them to you, however you like.
> > 
> > I was running mutt.  But I have a soft spot for pine.  It was the first
> > email app I ever learned back in 92 when I started college.  I realize
> > that it is not GPL.  But if you want them, I'll be glad to post 'em or
> > email 'em.  It's pine.deb, pico.deb (a great text editor), and pilot.deb.
> 
> The reason Debian doesn't distribute Pine debs is not because it's
> non-gpl.  It's because the license forbids distribution of modified
> binaries.  If you've applied the debian diff patches to the source before
> you made the .debs then you're violating the Pine license agreement.  If
> you haven't modified the sources, then you're OK with the pine license,
> but your .deb probably doesn't follow the Debian guidlines.
> 
> noah
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