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Re: Why not as a newsgroup?



Didier Verna wrote:
> 
> Mosl Roland writes:
> 
> Mosl> I find the current method with email very unpractical.
> 
>         I find it very practical.


	Not everyone out here agrees with that statement.


> Mosl> Why not organize as a newsgroup only available as
> Mosl> news.debian.org ?
> 
>         I hope not. The signal/noise ratio on mailing lists is always so much
> better than on a newsgroup.


	Not if its a 'private' news feed as in news.debian.org, and not
the Usenet.


> Mosl> 1.) news are organized as threades emails are very unorganized
> 
>         That's because you don't organize them. My mails are organized exactly
> as real newsgroups: auto-folding, auto-sorting, auto-threading,
> auto-expiration etc.


	The issue is not how many features your news reader/mail reader
has. The problem is that email lists require you to download
*every* message, whether you want to read them or not.  With a
news server, you only have to download the subject lines, and only
the messages you want to read.


> Mosl> So why not change it to a privat (only on one server available)
> Mosl> newsgroup?
> 
>         It might be possible to have a newsgroup mirroring the list, but even
> that, I don't like at all.


	Well, I *do* like the idea; so take that.


	I realize that debian.org may not have the resources to setup a
'private' non-Usenet news server on debian.org, but look, we've
all seen this issue raised before.  Every time its brought up,
most responders give their personal opinion as to whether they
like a mail list vs. a news group.  They say 'I like it'/'Its
easier for me' etc. etc.  Others say 'Well, get a better
mailreader', which is condescending given the fact the software
being used is *irrelevant*.  As mentioned above (only download the
subject lines), a newsgroup is more efficient for those of us who
don't have the T1, or better, connections that the rest of you
apparently have (how long does it take you to download 500 emails,
Hmmm?).  If debian.org doesn't have the resources then say that,
or give a more concrete reason, instead of just telling us 'I like
it better'.
	All I'm asking is for the majority to show a little more
understanding of the minority's position.


-- 
Ed C.


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