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Re: Newsgroups and this mailing list



I may be wrong (pls correct me if so) but I believe this mail list _IS_
linked to the newsgroups.  Check out linux.debian.user

ivan.


At 11:30 AM 12/29/98 GMT, you wrote:
>Ross Boylan (RossBoylan@alumni.stanford.org) wrote...
>> Hi.  I'm about to get a new machine and put Debian on it, and was wondering
>
>Congratulations!!
>
>Please don't take the following as criticism, it's meant more as
>correcting some mis-knowledge you have.  Share And Enjoy, and all
>that.  Feel free to respond :)
>
>> if someone could explain the relation between the Debian mailing lists and
>> the comp.os.linux hierarchy in newgroups.
>> My immediate practical question is which source I should use for help.
>
>Use the debian sources for debian-specific help like "Why doesn't this
>.deb install properly?" and the *linux* newsgroups for more general
>help.
> 
>> My more general question is why this apparent split exists (if I'm correct
>> that it does).
>
>So that the Debian-specific questions can be answered in a quieter
>forum with less noise.  Newsgroups tend to have much more off-topic
>junk and spam than mailing lists.  Those newsgroups are also for -all-
>flavours of Linux, not just Debian.  Many of the Debian people who
>help here probably don't have the time or inclination to wander
>through newsgroups full of questions that have nothing to do with
>Debian.
>
>> First, why not use the newsgroups mechanism?  Are there people without
>> access to them, or is it just an historical holdover?  I believe it is
>
>1.  More noise, less 'signal' in the newsgroups.
>2.  More stuff not related to Debian.
>3.  News propogation isn't great, people will only get some of the
>    articles.  It depends on -all- of the machines being up and 
>    well-behaved, where mailing lists just depend on debian.org and the
>    recipient machine.
>4.  News is slower to propogate.
>5.  To start up a new newsgroup is a long and involved process, where
>    if Debian needs a new mailing list they can just start it.
>
>> possible to gateway between a mailing list and a newsgroup, so that posts
>> to one come out in both forms.
>
>Gatewaying tends to be buggy and cause dupes.  It also means that the
>spam and junk that tends to get posted to newsgroups will end up in the
>mailing list as well - 
>
>> Newsgroups would allow searching and archiving via Deja News (among
>> others), would be more visible to others,
>
>The archives are available to anybody on the Debian website.  And
>there's plenty of advertising that they exist.
>
>> and wouldn't fill up my disk so much :)
>
>:)  True.  But you -could- always read them from the website 
>archives!
>
>> Of course, Debian could use newgroups but keep them separate from the
>> comp.os.linux groups.  Is there any reason to do so?  It seems to me doing
>> so somewhat defeats the purpose of open software.  It also makes Debian
>
>Why so?  If the discussions weren't available to anybody then 
>probably it would defeat the purpose of open -support-, but the
>mailing lists are open and the archives are on the web ... 
>
>> appear somewhat rare, if one judges by traffic in the newsgroups.
>
>Is this a problem?  Advertising isn't our game, and Debian has lots
>of users.  Taking over the world, or even the Linux world, isn't
>their aim.  
>
>
>bekj
>
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