The ppp setup for PAP neglects the need for "user <username>" in the ppp_options file (or where ever /dev/modem and what not is). And watch out -- hamm's ppp is rather different. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org . Trouble? e-mail to templin@bucknell.edu .